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40% THC? Australians Are Growing The World’s Strongest Pot

By on July 31, 2013
The first study to investigate the strength of Australian marijuana reveals some of the highest THC levels in the world.

The first study to investigate the strength of Australian marijuana has found some of the highest THC levels in the world. – You might think of places like Amsterdam or California as leaders in high potency marijuana, but new research shows it’s actually Australia that grows the world’s strongest pot.

In a study published last week, samples taken from the street market measured 15 percent THC on average, with the most potent strains measuring as high as 40 percent.

While recreational users might see this as good news, high levels of THC could be a drawback for Australians who use marijuana for medical purposes. That’s because CBD levels tend to decrease when THC goes up, which was another finding of the study.

Dr. Wendy Swift, lead author of the National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre (NDARC) investigation, told ABC News that other cannabinoids were present at “very low levels,” especially CBD.

The results, published in the international science journal PLOS ONE, showed over 90 percent of samples contained less than 0.1 percent CBD. Dr. Swift highlighted the problems associated with low CBD levels in a press release last week.

“While we have suspected for some time that cannabis in Australia contains high levels of THC, this is the first Australian analysis to demonstrate that on average, cannabis smoked by Australians is of similar high potency to that found in studies overseas and that levels of CBD, which may ameliorate some of the harmful effects of THC, are extremely low.”

australia-strongest-pot-2-07-31The study was not only the first Australian analysis of CBD, but of cannabis potency in general.

However, the high THC content was less of a surprise, considering cannabis around the world has tested stronger for this compound for as long as anyone has studied it.

Still, the growing population of medical marijuana users seem to prefer CBD in most cases. The chemical has many of the same therapeutic effects as THC, but comes without the high.

In fact, in countries like Israel – where medical marijuana is legal – companies have developed strains with as much as 15 percent CBD and less than 1 percent THC in order to meet this need.

Which just goes to show, the rising strength of marijuana may actually be a good argument for – rather than against – legalizing the cannabis plant. Unfortunately, most policymakers continue to argue the opposite.

  • Nanci Loveless Burns

    This study ignores the fact that CBD levels are highest in FRESH cannabis. As the plant matter dries, THC goes up, CBD goes down. People who need the CBDs need to ingest fresh leaves & flower buds. Fresh cannabis should be used to make cannibutter for edibles.

    • Phoenix Rising

      99.9% of the cannabis grown in Australia for recreation or medical has less than 1% CBD. That is a fact. Forty years of breeding for THC bred out the CBD. Now the breeders are looking to reverse that to once again introduce CBD to the strains available to patients. I am the only person in Australia working with high CBD strains. That is a fact. The strain I am using has 15% CBD. That is a fact.

      • ORLY

        “I am the only person in Australia working with high CBD strains. That is a fact. The strain I am using has 15% CBD. That is a fact.”

        You need to get out from underneath the rock you are living under, I know 2 growers off the top of my head who are working on increasing CBD levels in Australia.
        Have you been smoking in the stables again? Coz you need to get off of your high horse.

        • Bio Science and Botany

          But does your Australian weed have 15 percent CBD? No it does not……he has no need for work his CBD is there.

        • c-walk

          No he cited his source. .. “that is a fact”…. boom!

        • me

          Can i have some to see how strong it really is. Cuz I took 65% THC laced it with some Bruce banner and was like so high i was stuck in my car for 8 hours so I want to be the judge of that

          • Stephen Benjamin

            I want to be stuck like that where do I meet you….lol.. 8 hours wow

        • last one

          your 2 growers are working on increasing cbd.. he already has one.. so relax he is just stating what he has.. FACT..

      • Dale Flynn

        How can I find high cbd strains in WA

        • jonny bravo

          Bellingham here

        • Cbd Seeds Int

          Online ;-)

          • Dave

            Good answer ;) Lol dispensery’s have menus and phone numbers. You don’t even need a discussion forum to get this obtainable information. I will stick with my THC so next time I participate in a forum like this I can still help answer questions that stump CBD users… JK

      • joe bloggs


      • Blizzard

        may i please get in contact with you?

      • anonymous

        I have a penis, this is a fact

        • Wikipedia

          [citation needed]

      • Luke Williams

        What’s the strain you are talking about with 15% cbd?

        • Cbd Seeds Int

          One to One by CBD Seeds 14% lab tests available!
          Charlotte Web, Stanley brothers, around 20% but 0.3% THC

      • Brent Mccarthy

        Lots of facts

      • billymillennium

        You’re Bullshit!

    • Alex

      I seriously recommend eating fresh leaves in like salads, they will balance out your system.

      • brothergreen

        Eating fresh pot is not a good thing. Pot has chemicals that irritate the stomach as a natural defense system. Not removing the carbon molecule also makes it hard for the medicinals to be absorbed efficiently by the body.

        • Alex

          I was saying leaves like in a salad, not marijuana leaves lol. You know lettuce, cabbage, those kinds of leaves. However if you put marijuana leaves into a salad they will not irritate anything since the rest of the salad will be in bigger doses.

    • Blue

      Not true, there is no such conversion of THC to CBD via drying plant material. You get either CBD or THC over the growing phase as they both come from the same precursor compound. If THC is high in fresh plant material, it will also be high in properly cured dry material, THC degrades to CBN with exposure to heat, air, and light.

      • Cbd Seeds Int

        I am going to have to look into this…… I am not going to confirm, but I myself have seen the levels changing……. Not saying am right but everyone seem to agree…. Although to be honest what yousay makes sense…….

        • tonydfixer

          The THC changes, I am no chemist but I have read that it must be dried to become activated. ( no chemist ) For it to make us high it must be dried. So it’s in there, but it changes when dry. still the same amount.

    • greg dave

      We supply top quality marijuana strains for sale text or call (567) 698 8469 or email …,,,

    • B-dubz

      Hmmmm not if you you’re want your edibles to get you as stoned as possible! You actually want the bud as dry as possible in order to remove the moisture and have thca converted to THC, ones psychoactive, one is not. I decarb my weed before making edibles, that is I prebake it a lil… Look it up…

      • Stephanas Razsa

        She’s talking about medical benefits not getting stoned dumbass.

    • tribble23

      its a fairy tale, or do you have studies for it?
      in the fresh plant, cbd is in acidic form, cbd-a. it has nothing to do with cbd.

      • Rhett Carillo

        heat it to remove the acid.

    • Cbd Seeds Int

      Flowers bary the highest levels unless they concentrated in an extract, at least I believe so….. I have extracted at 60% for a flower at around 9%… Absolutely agree on the levels decreasing / increasingas it dries. Thus ios adviable for CBD users to dry for up to 4 months in ideal cionditions for best evels. I can prove that with tests! PM inbox

    • Blob Bloberson

      It’s not a competition. .. FACT!!!

  • E

    and it ignores the fact that when you are a regular user the substance pretty much becomes like a cigarette or like water.. and doesn’t affect you like a new user.. as your THC saturation point in your body is reached the effects are not as drastic anymore.. since the user’s saturation may drop to 99.5% over night from 100% and then ingestion only creates an experience of 0.5% increase instead of a 10% increase or so in some one that hasn’t used for awile or ever..

  • Phoenix Rising

    I have great concerns about flawed studies
    on cannabis being released to the general public with little or no factual
    basis, or simply outright lies. In particular I am concerned that studies like
    this reflect poorly on the standard of research at NDARC, and bring it into
    disrepute. As an Australian who has helped fund the organisation through my
    taxes, I find that totally unacceptable.
    I have been in contact with Dr Wendy Swift and brought my concerns about
    her study to her attention. Dr Swift, quite rightly so, has agreed with my
    assertion that her study was flawed, and in fact has only helped to further
    confuse the already confused truth about cannabis in Australia.

    • Peter Lunk

      You are totally right !
      Test results from 1 bud can vary from testkind and location to other places…
      Test 1 bud in 4 labs get 4 different results.

      P.S. 40% THC is complete B.S !!! imo
      MAke oil from such a bus and you will see thet you will NEVER get a 40% weight oil from ANY BUD.

      Strange testnumbers.

      • Not How it Works

        That is not how it works.. 40% THC does not mean that the bud is made up of 40% THC by weight.. it means that when you take all of the cannabinoids and add them up, 40% of those cannabinoids are THC..
        I’m not even sure if cannabinoids is the right word.. But I am sure that your thinking on 40% being a measurement of the weight of the buds is completely wrong.
        40% THC just means that the buds are mostly offering THC, less of the other actives..

        If you make extracts you would know this is true.. you are lucky to get 3.5g of hash from an oz of buds.. and that hash is not even close to being pure THC.. that is just hash.

        Your thinking is all backwards. This is people who don’t know what they are talking about, talking like they do know what they are talking about.. silly.

        • Rangi Faulder

          This is how it works I’m sorry, read the study again. “Individual cannabinoid values are expressed as w/w %.” Not % weight of the THC of all cannabinoids present in extract.

          • B-dubz

            That makes the study very flawed. There are two ways to measure thc properly. Gas chromatography and mass spectrumometer. Solvent extractions and lab tests are extremely flawed.

          • Rangi Faulder

            The study may be flawed but please read it. The industry typically uses HPLC with a number of detection methods used. GC and HPLC use solvents in sample prep so I don’t know what you are getting at. I have seen the images of samples that tested over 35 in the USA and I also know that they tested over 35. There are no links but I could tell you how this was achieved and its not cheap.

          • B-dubz

            No. They use gas cormotography if its done accurately. This study basically just analyzed a solvent extraction.

            And no samples have hit thirty five. It would be big news. They just cracked thirty for the love of god!

            I still wanna know how cold makes more trichs…

          • Rangi Faulder

            Care to explain why GC is more accurate? In GC the liquid to gas phase comes after a solvent extraction. Both methods “basically just analyse a solvent extraction”. It helps if you own both. The method that don’t use solvents to extract first is Steep hills Q2. Take your blue god that someone managed to get 30% out of while others for some reason in the past couldn’t ok. Run a plasma and say a Solis Tek with increased UV. A/B and organic amendments, all bacteria and myco. Do a run. Then add cold pump by water chiller into your root zone at different periods using controls and spend a few grand on testing over the period and give us a link to your results.

          • B-dubz

            Don’t known enough about chemistry to really understand why, but gc-ms is the industry standard. From what I do know its probably because its better at analyzing volatile compounds like terpenes. I do know its industry standard though.

            I already run microbe based. What is AB? bottled nutes? Why run bottled nutes? Or are you talking about uva and uvb? I already run with fluros and hps, I got plenty of UV for what I need.

            And no I have no interest in spending money on extra lighting to raise thc percentage by a few points. I grow for myself, and father, there is no point. One day when I get my hort degree and hopefully a legal farm I will grow under the sun as much as possible. In my expierence outdoor is almost exactly as strong. It really just depends on the grower and strain. Yes if you give strains inside a unnatural amount of light you can bump it up a little, but its just not worth the added cost in electric. I will shoot for undercutting everybody else and still selling great bud, that is environmentally friendly… Seems like a better strategy. Maybe breed and sell seeds too. I got a few black rose crosses I’m working on… Hopefully I will get my mitts on some seeds from nam soon…

            Anyway that was not my question. The question was how introducing cold water to the root zone (which would slow growth, unless its to hot already) would cause more trichs?!?? Trichs are a reaction to the SUN. Not to temperature. Show me some evidence from anything remotely factual that shows a colder than normal root zone means more trichs.

            Doing this wouldwould only slow root growth. Unless the root zone is already to hot, or you don’t have adequate levels of co2.

            Also you like soil you know about biochar right? If you dont charge it in a good compost tea for a day or two, Mix that shit with peat (yes I know its not entirely friendly but I can’t figure out how else to neutralize it and they just work so well together.) And you can replace all amendments to soil. I still add kelp, but other than that I have been running peat, biochar, ewc, compost, and rice hulls with some glacial dust and kelp as the only ammendmants. Its working great! Just don’t go overboard on the biochar, it reduces growth at high levels, but greatly increases it in 10-20% range.. Haven’t tested it on plants in higher ranges, but that’s what the study’s say. Oh it makes it a tlo too if you choose. The biochar will hold and cycle nutrients pretty much forever…

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Outdoor is basically as strong, I have had the same strain tested both in and out.

          • B-dubz

            Take two thousand watt lights and put it on one plant. It will be a few percentage points stronger than outdoors because you gave it a amount of light that does not occur outside. Obviously very few people do this because its extremely expensive and not really worth it, but it will be a little stronger…

          • Rangi Faulder

            So the base materials that make trichomes also make terpenes. Terpenes are not so volatile at cold temperatures. They evaporate- think headspace GC or how they are lost during extraction processes. A plant should “smell more” off into warm air but lets just say for ease it will have a hard time pumping that out constantly while also pumping out max possible trichome. Now are terpenes just for communicating/detering animals and insects only?or is it possible that it also aids growth and renewal of trichome over entire flowering period. (think before and during time when trichome head turns into a plump ball and then collapses) That “smell” is loss of terpenes from the plant. As you say cold temps are not ideal for plant growth. Flowering/seeding can and need be hastened by/in non ideal conditions. Can you imagine for a moment whether pollen would be pulled by surface drag toward a pistil by the presence of trichomes ( compared to plant leaf with no trichome) as effectively in cold air temps ( vs warmer) if there were less trichomes? Think viscosity of air and pollen particles ability to move within a column of air on wind and that these pistils are not yet fertilised. I suspect there are a number of wonderful things that are at play that happen to help the plant survive that we are yet to fully understand or appreciate.

          • B-dubz

            How on earth could non ideal conditions hasten flowering or seeding in non ideal conditions??

            And that still does not explain how dumping cold water on roots would cause more trichs. You would have to lower the ambient temp of the room for that to work. I never see trichs heads collapse. They get amber colored. They do not collapse.

            Yes terps are present in trichs and actually help produce thc. However they are locked in by the structure of the trichrome. They do not make the outer shell of it. Furthermore I suspect the majority of terpes are present in the plant material itself. That’s why hash never tastes as strong as the bud you made it from. Also the main chemical in terpes drug dogs sniff for in pot is actually present in a higher percentage in hemp than weed. Hemp has little to no trichs.

            Also trichs are there to deter predators, insulate against uvb, and as a natural anti fungal. They do not help the plant grow other than by being a defense mechanism. If they did hemp would grow terribly, as it produces almost no trichs. But in fact it grows more vigorously than marijuana.

          • Rangi Faulder

            So you have never heard of non ideal/ stress leading to faster flowering nor of people that cold shock roots, some try it with ice. I never said the guys pumping out the highest trichome levels never lowered room temps, nor did I say they didn’t use UV- I am aware of what their recipe is as I am aware of which wavelengths of light are utilised in the UV bulbs in the detectors that measure absorbance/THC . I told you to look into hemp research that showed same variety grown under cold produces more THC toward end. You claimed it only changes colour. Terps are present in the plastids in trichome but they are not “locked off” for good. Just because you never see trich heads collapse don’t mean that those researchers that take photos of them collapsed are photoshopping fools out of us. That is not why hash is less stinky than plant. Terps are volatile. Leave them in a test tube and watch it disappear. Day 1 post harvest hash is not the same in way of terpene level as day 30. Also see my point about trichome collapsing. Hash breathes similar to how trichs can. You say the main chemical in terps is what drug dogs are trained to sniff. Not true. They are taught with caryophyllene which is one of many terpenes. Found elevated in some hemp and elevated in some drug varieties the same. A drug variety may have high caryophyllene or high limonene or other, same as hemp varieties can. Look at a few dozen different terpene profiles of both kinds to see for yourself. Finally there are hemp plants that do have loads of trichomes just as there are drug types that don’t. I remind you that males have less trichomes than females even in hemp but also die out earlier so don’t require it as long like females do for longer term. If a plant does not need trichome to grow or survive or breed well then so be it. There is a case for expending budget on products not required in locations where it is not needed however I figure I am wasting my time answering someone who thinks they know more or is arguing for the sake of it. Good luck with your outdoor plans.

          • B-dubz

            No I have never heard of stress inducing flowering or cold shocking roots. Well, stress my induce hermafridaztion, but that’s not really what people are after is it? Also cold shocking roots would only slow root growth. I think happy plants make the best bud. Pissing them off does not.

            You said watering with cold water made more trichs. Not lowering the ambient environment. So which is it?

            I never said they didn’t use UV either, I was simply saying that’s what makes more trichs, not cold.

            It does change them purple, I have done it outside. They did not have more trichs, they had less and shitty yields.

            I made hash with alcohol on day one, it was no different than hash made with bud I bought…

            Caryophyllene oxideoxide is found in higher levels in hemp. Its also the main terpene they sniff for.

            No, no hemp has loads of trichromes. They do extract the ones present in some cases for the Cbd, but no hemp has “loads” of it compared to weed.

            The male female thing is very irellevant. Obviously we would be talking about the sex that has the most.

            Funny you say I like to argue, but your the one that cannot seem to back there claims. I ask you again, how would colder temps (which slow ALL plant growth) cause more trichs? It wouldn’t, trichs don’t insulate buds, you would be much better off by releasing bugs or giving them more UV light because those things actually do cause that defense mechanism to go into high gear.

          • Rangi Faulder

            Ask an experienced hemp farmer or someone who tests it for a living if hemp cultivars have loads of trichomes. Trichs do insulate buds from cold and moisture. You are almost there. Think about a blanket of vertical stalk like structures with balls on top, containing THC. Now think what happens when UV is being absorbed by THC rather than reflected? Do you think perhaps there is any heat there in the light energy at those wavelengths being absorbed by said trichome? Oils can hold temperature rather well think like you have a oil radiator at school. Do you think that if the plant experienced a cold shock that if it then pushed out a greater amount of tight nit trichomes even if you disagree then would that have some sort of advantage to the plant and its impending need for seed development so that it can finish off with a viable seed before it is bye bye? I never said they keep the roots cold to the point the plant don’t grow. The HPS, UV and plasma is handed to them through out their growth ok. They are fed as good as possible. They grow perfectly. It’s like mimicking and harvesting the power of nature son. The cold comes last after the plant has grown its best.

          • B-dubz

            No hemp does not have lots of trichs. It has very VERY few. Cbd in hemp is extremely low, and thc is almost not present. Cbd is at 25 parts per million to give an idea.

            Trichs are for reflecting light, not absorbing it. They do not have clorophil, or any way of utilizing light energy as green plant material. Cold temps will harden off buds (especially autos) and can encourage seeds to finish up because it does signal death time to the plant, it will not make more trichs. That’s light.

            Seed production has nothing to do with trichs really. Its reproduction vs a defense mechanism. They are two totally different things. If trichs somehow where part of reproducing you would be right, but they are not.

          • Rangi Faulder

            Now you accept cold will fasten up seeding. Sucks when you research some more and you read something backing up what I told you that your had been arguing with me over. Im just about done correcting your errors. Did you talk to some hemp farmers?. You know, the guys that Hemp isn’t all the same. There are hundreds of cultivars. No limit on CBD.. CBD is not always so low in hemp. There are a number of cultivars that are showing between 4 – 6 percent CBD ( work out the PPM) and they were NOT crossed to any drug based high CBD type they are sold that way from supplier. Those grown as hemp that are 18 % CBD are hemp by definition of hemp and have been grown for a number of years. There are hemp farmers that smoke pot that would tell you a well laden hemp plant will have more trichs than an average drug type like your purple outdoor. They could tell you which strains will harden off faster with onset of cold and which will keep flowering and at what latitudes ( take finola as your example) and will tell you that cold DOES affect the trichs. I guess you are saying the trichs don’t increase even if the flowers finish off faster because they don’t need to protect plant from UV or bugs/fungi any more than normal. Wrong. You think it is totally predetermined by genes of plant as in THC percentage. Wrong. There is a lot you could learn from old hemp farmers about growing outdoors and about the plant. You say trichs reflect light, but by that you mean those wavelengths which they don’t absorb. Where do they reflect the other wavelengths to? Do trichs look white or somewhat see through too? Can you see the sun through a block of shatter? What about chlorophyl under trichs? What about a microclimate created under a canopy in the amazon?

          • B-dubz

            Haha dude I never said it would not speed up seeding, I said it would not add to trich production. They are very different things.

            And what have you corrected exactly? I’m getting pretty sick of your condescending tone and lack of EVIDENCE.

            And where are there strains of hemp that high? Do you have a shred of evidence? Thought not…

            Ummm hardening off of buds has nothing to do with trichs either. It effects the dried weight, making something denser does not raise thc by volume.

            No, no hemp has more trichs than what I would call average weed. That’s just baloney.

            Lol what is my purple outdoor?!?!

            Yes thc is determined by genetics. You can bump it up a little. You can make it go down by more, but really poor methods hurt yeild far more than anything else.

            Sigh if the flowers finish faster that just means a earlier harvest. If you leave them up they will stop production and start dieing. Furthermore if you did this you would get more amber trichs then is desirable for most.

            No they still need the trichs for protection, but the amount of trichs is far more then they need for protection. This is due to breeding. If they are not growing new buds, and the old buds are done, trich production stops.

            Yes thc percentage is determined by genes. You can’t find anything that will disagree with that. Its called progeny specific. That is a specific progeny will exhibit specific traits EVERY TIME. Once bred (or really usually inbred) the strain will become mostly uniform. It will not change because of environment when it comes to thc content. However yeild can vary drastically.

            What wavelengths do plants not absorb? Green? Wrong. Trics reflect some of all light. They reflect them away from the plant. That’s why they evolved to be bulbous on top.

            Your last three comments are just moronic. I’m sorry, but that’s just what they are.

            Being opaque is totally irrelevant to reflection. Are your reflectors opaque? Do they absorb light?

            How is seeing the sun through shutter relevant?!??! They obviously don’t reflect all the light, if they did the buds would get not light!

            Trichs are microns high, they are not nearly big enough to cause a microclimate.

          • Rangi Faulder

            Look again. I never said shutters. I said shatter, I assumed you would be familiar with the term. You just said “I never said it would not speed up seeding” You also wrote this a few posts up. “How on earth could non ideal conditions hasten ( speed up) flowering or seeding in non ideal conditions??” This was in reference to cold. and later you wrote this. “Cold temps will harden off buds (especially autos) and can encourage seeds to finish up because it does signal death time to the plant”. So if you accept that the seeding or flowering window is being compressed by cold, then why is it so hard to accept that if you use cold that THC production is increased at this time? Charlottes web is classed as hemp due to its low THC. The Stanley brothers did not have to perform much magic. Look up a study called ” A chemotaxomic analysis of cannabinoid variation in Cannabis” ( Hillig, Mahlberg 2004) Table 3. In chemotype 2 they found CBD ranged up to 7.6% CBD and chemotype 3 ranged up to 13.6% CBD. Long before the Stanleys CW.

          • B-dubz

            Haha never said shutters.

            You said it “speeds up seeding” that is not the same as ripening off some seeds that would not normally ripen in normal conditions.

            Because seed and trichs are two totally different unrelated systems in the plant!

            Links out on that study, but it looks like they are measuring it as a ration of thc to CBd. This would not mean its that high at all, it would mean thc and cbd are low.

            Haha charrolettes web is not hemp. Hemp needs to be high growing sativa. Charlotte’s web is like five feet tall. Don’t you think they would have just gone somewhere hemp growth is legal and imported it as hemp if that where true?

          • Rangi Faulder

            It was a 13.6% CBD years before CW. not a ratio. They provide ratios and percentages.The 12 hemp plants in the USSR study had between 4.2%-5.1%. Hemp is not all three to five metres tall. That is just more of your ignorance shining through which is why you have it all so wrong. Never heard of 4 foot hemp plants to produce seed? Open your eyes. There are companies that do that already. CBD does not all come from CW and the Stanleys. I can only figure that each lack you have on understanding or knowledge is putting your judgement out.

          • B-dubz

            Again any coroboration? Or just more anactdotal bullshit and false accusations?

            Thought so…

            Go spread myths elsewhere dude…

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Ok dub-ass

          • B-dubz

            And yet you provide no evidence for a strain higher than 4… And if they are that short its due to environments not genetics. Its sativa. Sativa grows tall..

          • Rangi Faulder

            Or try another study report called “Selection for non psychoactive hemp varieties in the CIS (formerly USSR). (Virovets 1996). “The results obtained have shown that hemp cultivated in more northerly areas is naturally rich in cannabinoids, and that the only way of lowering their content is through selection.” See table 1. Looking at their dozen varieties of hemp the average CBD ranges from 4.2-5.1% across the varieties.

          • B-dubz

            That study has 4 percent. That’s no where near the same amount of trichs as good weed, like you claimed, nor is it anywhere near 15% you also claimed.

          • Rangi Faulder

            Is my evidence which you said I didn’t have which shows 4-5% THC or 4 to 5 PARTS PER HUNDRED parts of dry flower (not including THC and terpenes and waxes) anywhere near your 25 parts PER MILLION CBD that you tried to claim is all that hemp contains in it, and which you used to explain hemps supposed low amount of trichomes?. Thats averaged out. Not peak, and it covered 12 hemp cultivars in Russia. Where did you get your 25PPM from? cause you sure didn’t ask a hemp farmer like a told you to.

          • B-dubz

            Stop being stupid.

            I never said shit about 25 ppm. I said hemp has low trichs compared to even average weed. Only mids is even close to those numbers. Your just making shit up now.

            No hemp is 4 to 5% thc. That study does not say that, and if thc levels are that high its not called hemp.

            You said there where hemp strains close to fifteen. Your provided evidence for strains close to five. You failed utterly in proving hemp has as many trichs as decent weed.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Your so full of it dub-ass. You have never examined low thc strains for trichs as usual your troll ass is making shit up.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Trichomes can be present in large amounts on a plant with less than 1% THc.

          • B-dubz

            Nope. Part of trichromes forming involves thc production. Without it they will not form in abundance.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Rangi, al your knowledge is book knowledge not personnel experience. You and dubz are both arrogant. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing applies to both of you.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Don’t get me wrong book knowledge is obviously importanat, but you are citing random observations you have found written and acting like it is iron clad cause and effect. Even if it qualifies as scientific observation it is not the same as proof.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Your wrong about everything dub that’s why everyone is schooling ya, the stanly brothers just stumbled across that strain. Some people say it is just a copy of Cali’s acdc.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            A plant can have lots of trichs, and still low thc. I have a high cbd low thc strain that is still loaded with trichs.

          • B-dubz

            Yea sure you do…

          • Stephanas Razsa


          • Stephanas Razsa

            Trichs are not directly linked with thc, it can be but not all the time. Hemp can contain all kind of oils and ultra low thc hemp is really a recent development historically. Think I hear your mom calling again dub-ass

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Powdery mildew causes early flowering too. Introducing stress on purpose is ill informed. Most growers don’t care about all those useless theories because they understand the biggest determining factor in potency is genetic.

          • Rangi Faulder

            Thats why they start with the best genetic and push it to max of its expression. They don’t add stress during grow or first seven weeks flower. No bending no touching nothing. Its got nothing to do with saying lets make this plant work hard and give it a hard life.

          • Rangi Faulder

            Mass spectrometry is a detection method used in a lab, after using solvent. Thin layer is something different again.

          • B-dubz

            Uh duh…

            Mass spectrometer is used to guess what compound is what generally. Its to identify things. Gas chromatography shows you what already known compounds are. I didn’t say shit about thin film, and thin film is less accurate from my understanding…

        • B-dubz

          I think its correct, cbd for example stands for canabidiol, a cannaboid. Idk what CBN and the others stand for though, but I would bet they are all forms of cannabidol in some sort or another.

          Actually there is hash oil that’s supposedly close to or above 90% THC. It’s nitrogen or co2. Other than that yea the next closest is bho wich I believe is 60 or so.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            You are spouting so much BS. You mean cannabinoids not cannabinol.

          • B-dubz

            No numbnuts I mean cannabinol. Most cannabinoids are bound to cannabinol, and cbd is cannabinol. Thc for example the c is for cannabinol

            Try having a fucking clue BEFORE you talk k?

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Most strains have little to no cbd. Your wrong dub.

          • peter parker

            man i would just delete all these comments if i were you, must be pretty embarassing

        • Stephanas Razsa

          Your totally wrong. 40% thc means 40% of the buds weight is thc,

          • B-dubz

            No, it does not. Think about it. Have you ever seen a bud that’s 20% trochromes? I think not…

            Its a measure of the percentage of thc. Back in the seventys or eighty’s that’s how it was done. It changed. That’s why you have people claiming weed is so.Mich more perposdeously strong now then it was then. It is stronger now than then. But only by 5 to 15%. Not this 30 times stronger nonsense the media likes to claim.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            This just shows you don’t know what your talking bout D-ubz, call a lab or do some more reading. I deal with my lab regularly I know what it means.

          • B-dubz

            Sure you do. I highly doubt you even grow if you think a plant could be 20% of one chemical compound. Try taking some plant science classes.

            Or just find one source on the internet that claims as you do.

            Also try reading the damn study! Not even this very flawed study agrees with you!

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Scared to do a little research and find out your wrong? Easier to just talk smack? Guess your smoking swag if you haven’t seen buds with 20% trichs

          • B-dubz

            Your the one that needs to do research, and no one has smoked weed that’s 20% trichs. No plant yields 20% of the plant in such few compounds. Take a plant science class, or just develope common sense…

          • peter parker

            im literally cringing in my seat at your stupidity

          • Stephanas Razsa

            You should google calculating milligrams of thc in edibles Dub. Afraid to learn something? Most high THC strains have barely any other cannabinoids so if the tests worked how you think they would be like 80-90% thc. It is measuring thc% of total sample weight.

          • B-dubz

            Haha your just so wrong on that… Critical kush is 25% thc and 5% Cbd… That does not include CBN or other canabadoids… Do some research dude stop talking out your ass…

          • Stephanas Razsa

            So your saying that there would be other cannabinoids that make up the other 70%? There wouldn’t be a way to compare with you testing logic because each strain would have its own incomparable scale. You clearly don’t understand any math theory. Go back and get your GED. Or at least do an honest Google search so you understand this issue. I will not respond to your messages further because your ignorant and just want to argue.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            So what makes up the other 70% oh wise one? Please enlighten me with a % break down. High thc cannabis only contains trace amounts of other cannabinoids so try explaining your theory.

          • B-dubz

            Honestly I have no idea.

            But you still can’t explain why a 20% strain will never yield 20% hash of input weight. Even with a supercritical co2 extractor it won’t, which is a very efficient form of extraction…

          • Stephanas Razsa

            The first intellectually honest thing you said d-putz is that you have no idea. A strains ithc% is its % of total weight of sample. Extraction efficiency is a totally different subject. I think your asking why your extractions havnt been 100% efficient? I am not an expert at extraction efficiency. With butane unless you bathe the product for an extended period of time you won’t get high efficiency. I have read but not verified that if you soak product in butane too long it begins extracting chlorophyll.

          • B-dubz

            Try having some common sense. Their are over 85 identified canabinoids in pot. So even if each other one is less that 1% in a 15% strain that still accounts for it.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            You have obviously never looked at anyone’s lab reports. You have no idea what your talking about. You should spend a little time educating yourself instead of talking bs online.

          • B-dubz

            Actually I looked st this one, and many others in study’s…

            Project much?

            You still can’t explain why you never get close to that in hash… I’m still waiting for a reasonable explanation on that…

            Maybe you should just stop lying online about being a grower that has access to a lab?

          • Rangi Faulder

            I own a HPLC and a GC and you again are wrong and doing nothing but pushing out incorrect information to others that also know no better but might be looking for correct information. The % THC is in relation to the weight of the original sample not the %THC in the oil extracted from the sample or the %THC out of the cannabinoids for that matter. Otherwise there would be no requirement to weigh the dry sample nor the solvent for that matter. The machines are calibrated by a reference standard by weight. ug per millilitre. You can accurately measure the weight of THC by comparing the area under the peak on the chromatogram to that standard without ever knowing what the other cannabinoids are. Problem with explaining something to you is that you ignore people that actually know and do what they are talking about which just makes you a time wasting troll.

          • B-dubz

            Sure you do. Its right next to your farm and batcar right?

            And you say I’m trolling? Gimmie a fucking break, you have changed what your saying multiple times, and backed none of your claims.


          • Rangi Faulder

            Sure, I just know how they work way more than you do for no reason. Shimadzu HPLC LC 10 AVP with waters 486 UV detector, GC 9A. You know what that is do you? How come I do? I also know that MS can be used on GC and HPLC but you did not. Now how about you go and try and find something that proves Rasza and I wrong?

          • Stephanas Razsa

            It’s useless using facts to explain things to dubz.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            No lab reports will reflect your statements. I don’t know why your hash making skills suck but that is changing the subject. Educate yourself and maybe you won’t feel the need to argue about stuff you don’t understand.

          • B-dubz

            OK now I know you don’t have a clue.

            Who is getting more than a few grams in oil from a co2 or butane extraction? Fucking no one.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            I didn’t make any claims about hash yield, you are arguing with yourself. Have you been screened for schizophrenia ?

          • B-dubz

            I never said you did.

            What you DID do was ignore the question over and over and over because you don’t have a legitimate answer and know it.

            Nice schitz joke, to bad its just a joke…

            Why do you feel the need to lie on the web? What are you trying to prove/compensate for?

          • B-dubz

            So you claim to be able to get a 20% return in hash oil from a 20% strain? Thought not…

          • Stephanas Razsa

            You keep changing the subject to hash because your wrong about how lab reports work so you somehow think changing the subject makes you sound smarter. My three year old uses that tactic.

          • B-dubz

            I’m not changing the subject I’m proving my point. If a strain is 20% THC, you would expect to get close to 20% of your input weight when making oil. You do not. Explain why or stop wasting everybody’s time.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            It’s only you that doesn’t understand what thc% means. Anyone else who didn’t know before does now or reads more. I know when I have seen butane extraction done, there are still trichs left on the material. I suspect that you get a very pure return from extractions but that does not mean they are 100% efficent. I know people that make butter with their extraction waste because there is typically still left over cannabinoids.

          • B-dubz

            Again project much?

            When butane extraction is done properly (in a long skinny tube) there will be very little trichs left over, and furthermore whatever Trichs are left over are dissolved into the tane, and not visible…

            Anyone that makes butter out of non purged but butaniated weed is a moron. In fact most dabs themselves are still pretty heavily butaninated.

            So once again you prove you have no idea what your talking about. Stop making myths, your hurting the community.

          • peter parker

            theoretically it is possible to get 20% thc out, and many times professionals will come close. But you cannot get it all because the process will not be 100% efficient. Once again, many experienced extract artists will come close to the potential of the plant.

          • peter parker

            uhh yea 20% is what most experienced extract artists aim for

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Any medical grow can go to one of the labs and test there stuff. Pretty standard for real growers dubz. If you admit your wrong about thc or cbd % and there relation to the weight of tested sample I will answer your hash questions. You could do some research but if you admit your wrong I will entertain another of your questions.

          • B-dubz

            Haha more bullshit from the peanut gallery?

            No. I am not wrong. Look it up for yourself.

            My only question about hash oil is if you are getting anywhere close to the percentage of THC of the strain out. If you claim to your just lying, so why would I want advice from a liar?

            Funny response….

          • peter parker

            oh my lord, you are actually too stupid. i cant tell if you’re trolling anymore

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Read the study? The graph in the study says % by weight. Grow up .

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Do a google search on calculating milligrams from thc% and you will see you are wrong on this.

          • B-dubz

            Already did long ago, and again now for shits and gigs. Why don’t you try finding something that corroborates what your saying? It doesn’t exist, so have fun…

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Fact: if a gram of BHO measures 49% THC, it contains 490 milligrams of THC. That is how it works. Please just check this out yourself instead of arguing. That is because there is 1000 milligrams in a gram, and the gram is 49% THC by weight.

          • B-dubz

            Fact: hash and herb are two different things, which are measured differently.

            When they measure hash, it is by weight. When they measure herb (at least in this study, and any internet source you can find) it is not.

            That’s why when you make oil you get no where near whatever the thc percentage of the weed was. When you make co2 or nitrogen (the purest forms with the least plant material) you get a gram or two per ounce, not any where close to the 20% you would expect from a 20% thc strain.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Wrong again, stop making stuff up. You don’t have to admit your wrong to me but stop making stuff up. I used the hash example to try to make it easy for you to understand. Let’s try weed. Weed that tests at 10% thc would contain 100mg of thc in one gram, that’s because if weed tests at 10% thc then 100 mg of 1000 is thc. THC percentage is just that regardless of what’s being tested. Look up the definition of percent. You really think that percent has different definitions for hash and weed? It doesn’t . I have been doing this for 23 years and I still have lots to learn, we all do. Let’s start by not repeating faulty information.

          • B-dubz

            Haha if you want false truths to stop being spread just stop talking…

            I know what a percentage is numbnuts, the question is a percentage of what. Hash is a percentage of the total weight, weed on the other hand is measured by the weight of total canabanoids in the pot, not the whole bud weight.

            Are there any strains that will yield 20% co2 hash oil out? Then why are there so many strains that are 20% THC? Why don’t they yeild anywhere near 20% of input weight? Probably because they are not 20% thc by volume… They are 20% thc of the oils in the plant… Come on dude this is not rocket science…

            Again find something, anything, that supports what you say…

          • Stephanas Razsa

            I have heard lots of people getting 5 grams from an ounce of prime buds. Five grams is very close to 20% and not all weed tests that high. Are you performing extractions on lab tested bud? Maybe your methods are wrong or maybe the bud your using is not very potent. If I was in Cali I would hold your hand and make it all better b-dumbz.

          • B-dubz

            Really you have heard of people getting 5 grams of co2 oil from 28 grams of bud. Now your just lying to prove a point. Its comically sad…

            What on earth makes you think I am in California?

          • QuantumJump

            “Really you have heard of people getting 5 grams of co2 oil from 28 grams of bud.”

            Sunshine, are you the hearsay sKientist? Is that the way you get your “empirical data”, via hearsay? BTW, hearsay is not “proof”, and in your case, just another one of your BS statements.

            You went from stating that you can’t get 20% THC, because based on CO2 hearsay extraction numbers (you pretend to be privy to), YOU haven’t heard it being done. Apparently you are the go to guy for all things psychic! Thank you, Miss Cleo!

            “When you make co2 or nitrogen (the purest forms with the least plant material) you get a gram or two per ounce, not any where close to the 20% you would expect from a 20% thc strain.”

            First, you are not making CO2, and you are not making Nitrogen (BTW, you can’t make an atom). What you meant to say was, “When you make an extract using CO2 or Nitrogen you get a gram or two per ounce”.

            Ohhh, now you are placing yourself in the position of authority by pretending like you have done more then hear about CO2 extractions? More importantly you stated; “not anywhere close to 20% you would expect from a 20% THC strain”.

            Sunshine, do you not see your mistake?

            There are results all over analytical360 for the same strains of flowers (eg: Dutch treat at 32.12% down to dutch treat at 14.1%, and a boatload in the 20% range). Dutch treat is normally a 20% strain, so you are wrong again. Not to mention that if you give dutch treat to a CFL closet grower, you can pretty much guarantee an even lower percentage then 14.1% THC/total weight .

            So, making the assumption that one strain will yield uniform results across the board, was proven WRONG! Someone made a statement you were wrong, and I gave you (and anyone who STILL believes in the crap you spew) the ability to see the proof that you are wrong.

          • B-dubz

            Your just to stupid to talk to… Go on any RELIABLE website and you will see how wrong you are…

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Why would the test be devised differently for hash and weed? Test results from hash are in fact directly comparable to test results from weed. I don’t think it’s all that crazy to get yields close to 20%. Most people trying to get highest yields will repackage the tube after the first run to get the crumbs .

          • B-dubz

            It would be insane to get 20% with CO2 or NITROGEN. neither uses tubes like bho does. I was specifically talking about co2.

            The test is different because hash has already been extracted and is almost entirely trichs. Weed has lots of other none trich stuff in it. You really think 40% of a plant could be one chemical compound? That’s just a laughable notion. Go take some plant science classes if this is beyond you…

            Also bho is bad. It still has butane trapped in it. Fully purging it is impossible. Just because it does not catch on fire does not mean its completely gone.

          • QuantumJump

            In the above referenced article, 40% THC means that 40% of the total weight of the material (less any residual moisture (H2O) content) is THC. In this case, it does NOT refer to the composition analysis of one compound, relative to the complete extract.

          • B-dubz

            Did you even read the fucking study? Do you even know how to read?

          • QuatnumJump

            Yes, and I understood it. Would you like me to teach you to read a graph?

          • QuantumJump

            ” You really think 40% of a plant could be one chemical compound? That’s just a laughable notion. Go take some plant science classes if this is beyond you…”

            First and foremost, you can’t take the dry weight of weed and claim a 40% “one chemical” figure as being a laughable notion, any plant-science-class-taker would laugh in your face.

            Second, plants are 70%~90% water by weight, GENIUS (that’s one chemical compound, Rainman, it may have 2 hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom, but it’s one chemical compound). I would laugh at the stupidity it took to place your foot in your own mouth, but that is just wrong for a person like myself who graduated grade 5 (summa cum laude).

            Third, if you don’t remove the water (which is only used in this article for comparative analysis of potency of marijuana) then it isn’t 40%, GENIUS. Maybe you shouldn’t have slept in your plant-science-classes, if like that FACT is beyond you.

            Did you even go to school? I’m being serious now, you “reason” and “deduce” like an imbecile. Furthermore, it’s called Botany.

          • B-dubz

            No plant is 90% water. Cacti are in the low eightys usually and you can drink from them!

            Pot is much lower obviously.

            I spose I should have said any compound besides water, but I figured any moron would realize that anything alive Is going to have allot of water in it. Guess your that idiot…

            The 40% number stands. When you dry weed you leave plenty of water in it otherwise it would smoke like hay. This study claims 40% of the PLANT MATTER Is THC. That’s what this study claims. Obviously you don’t smoke undried weed.

            Plant science and botany mean the same thing Luddite.

          • QuantumJump

            Maybe you should read rollitup and see what growers are saying they lose.


            Id say close to 60%-75% varying on the grow and Id assume strain.- Godkas

            used to be always something between 65-75% for me-green nobody

            As much as that might seem to make sense, average is 75% loss from standard drying, 85% from watercure. The moisture in the bud is accounted for in the 75% loss.- Harrekin

            The above article is comparative analysis, it is a somewhat “standardized” way to compare weed potency, it is not meant to use to make an inane comment about your 40% claim, which you are giving credence by mentioning “plant science” while treating science like the joke you are.

          • B-dubz

            Why on earth would I rely on a website like roll it up where people used to do nutty shit like “hang there plants upside down to get all the THC out of the roots?” Albeit that was a long time ago but still…

            Your the joke here that can’t seem to read a simple study..

          • QuantumJump

            “Why on earth would I rely on a website”

            Sorry guy, I didn’t realize you had a learning disability, my apologies for my behavior. I just thought you were having fun. Again, my apologies.

          • B-dubz

            No I just don’t rely on website that generally spread misinformation. I rely on the times I have dried and cured weed myself you fucking luddite

          • QuantumJump

            Watermelon (Citrullus lanatus var. lanatus, family Cucurbitaceae) is a vine-like (scrambler and trailer) flowering plant originally from southern Africa

            Nutritional value per 100 g (3.5 oz)
            Water 91.45g

            That’s a water content of 91.45%, you botanist, you.

            Keep typing, and I will keep on showing you for the “intellect” you are.

          • QuantumJump

            “Plant science and botany mean the same thing Luddite.”

            It does? Well, maybe you should use the scientific term if you want to play pretend scientist. Obviously you don’t grasp sarcasm well. My bad! With the way you create terms and facts and exclusions (after the fact) to backpeddle your “intellect”, it’s hard to remember you are a brilliant plant scientist who took plant science classes.

          • QuantumJump

            “No plant is 90% water. Cacti are in the low eightys usually and you can drink from them!”

            It will vary from over 95% of the fresh weight in plants such as lettuce and wax begonias to less than two percent for some seeds.-David Hershey, Faculty, Botany
            Area of science: Botany
            ID: 1040329190.Bt

          • QuantumJump

            ” I figured any moron would realize that anything alive Is going to have allot of water in it. Guess your that idiot…”

            First and foremost, allot means to portion something out (I want to allot the money in my bank account, a lot), I believe you meant a lot, or you are stupidly nonsensical (sorry I meant and, not or).

            I figured a sKientist who took plant-science-classes would be able to make a statement that was partially correct, when it came to plants (and their itty bitty tiny embryos).

            less than two percent for some seeds.-David Hershey, Faculty, Botany
            Area of science: Botany
            ID: 1040329190.Bt

            First and foremost, a seed is a plant embryo, and while they are alive, most have insignificant amount of water in them. So, you want to try to spin things yet again, so it doesn’t sound like you are packpeddling?

            Just in case you try to hang your “hat” on seeds and claim it is technically not a plant yet (although that would be wrong on even a biological level, and a sKientist who took plant-science-classes would know that), I leave you with…

            Sunflowers have 15% water content, maybe they are not alive, or maybe your non-quantifiable descriptor “a lot” means nothing coming from your flapping fingers, until you find yet another way to make a fool of yourself.

            PS- The viability of a seed is inversely proportional (sorry big words, ask your mom or look up the meaning) to its’ water content. Meaning the seed will live longer in a dormant state the less water it contains. You’re welcome, you sKientist who took plant-science-classes!

          • Enormous_DH


            When are you and Stephanas going to have sex?

          • Darth Vapor

            Bho is disgusting ! INever do dabs, people who do it look like they are smoking crack. You can harvest hash from a vaporizer. Its a lot purer than any wax or shatter nonsense.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Fact: your dumb. You probably don’t even understand how to calculate what 20% return would equal. Be cool stay in school.

          • B-dubz

            So when your outwitted and have no viable arguments you resort to petty insults, good to know…

            And its quite simple since you seem to be fishing for how to calculate 20%… You simply multiply .2 by the number you want the percentage of…

            Hope it helps you myopic moron.

          • Darth Vapor

            true hash and bho are also different things

          • Darth Vapor

            bho ewwww

        • tim bryant

          where can i gt these god seeds 40% thc iwant to believe

        • Stephanas Razsa

          It says right on the graph above. % of weight. Learn to read.

        • QuantumJump

          Not sure what school you received your speculative chemistry degree in, but %THC to % of total weight (less any moisture content) is EXACTLY how this chemical compound is quantified in the above article.

          Not to mention that test result data from Analytical 360, shows that the cannabinoid THC makes up 95%+ of total cannabinoid content (of all non-CBD strains).


          Platinum Delight tested April 2, 2015
          total THC 36.36%
          total CBD 00.26%
          total CBG 1.43%
          total CBN <0.1%

          So if you take the total THC (36.36) and divide by the total cannabinoids (38.15) you get 95.308% THC to total cannabinoids. So your theory is garbage, much like your intelligence.

          Now you apologize to Peter and Stephanas, as they were correct in what %THC means in the context of this article, and you are wrong (no surprise there), and pretending like you know what you are talking about.

          • peter parker

            thank da lawd not all stoners are this retarded

      • Cbd Seeds Int

        Agree! But thats why tehe best buds are selected…and to be honest, all seed banks, mine included, are sort of misleading people by publishing tests….. however this seems to be what the public wants… I believe this is nature and cannot be confined by a test or equally reproduced…think of the phenpootypes that come out of any pack of 10 seeds and tell me how one can acchieve what it says in the box… … for this I kinda feel like excusing myself when i publish tests….. Who am I to say that John Smith cannot do better than my 14/14…. or if i said that he can achieve a 14/14 and he would not…how do you think hed feel? Excuse the big ,mmarketing machine thats eating up all the truth!

    • ORLY

      Do you have Dr Swifts assertion that her study is flawed in writing or somewhere we could refer to? Coz that would essentially render this study, article and propaganda defunct.

      • Phoenix Rising

        Yes I do. I have an email from her but I do not intend to post it here. I did send an email to NDARC letting them know this study is flawed.

        • ORLY

          Proof or it didn’t happen.

          • Phoenix Rising

            Talk to Dr Swift yourself.

          • J3t

            or you could just have a brain and see the study is flawed. 40% THC means that a bud is just under half THC with the rest being plant matter. ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE, at this stage anyway. In the US they are only just approaching the lower 30% range at MAXIMUM, and they actually have the ability to build science labs to create this. Here in Aus we have a shitty grow room and some shitty genetics (mainly because everyone here is a selfish cunt). My point is that if you can’t see the flaw then don’t question it, it’s such an obvious flaw that it would be pointless for anyone to further explain it.

          • Rangi Faulder

            This is no longer impossible. There are tests on strains in the USA that have passed 35 %. They get the plant to pump out trichomes under cold temp regimes and good nutrition.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Not true, cold temps and “good nutrition” don’t make stronger bud.

          • Rangi Faulder

            Once you have the genetic and below you are firm that it is not genetics. So you only have the environment to play with. Add UV. You could do well to read a few dozen hemp research/lab papers and speak to the guys getting over 30 %.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            You have no idea what your talking bout Rangi, just cuz you read high times don’t make you an expert, I have grown hundreds of strains in over 20 years growing.

          • Rangi Faulder

            I never read high times. Funny you say that because the guys producing the highest THC levels through manipulating a few things they had never tried before said they had never seen production of trichomes like it in 22 years of growing. You have 2 more years..

          • B-dubz

            Thc content can only be altered by a few points by environment. There is a genetic maximum, it’s generally no more then five points when grown properly. There is only so much you can do to the environment to up it, and its not particularly hard to do…

          • B-dubz

            Cold temp regimes?!?! Where did you see cold makes more trichs?!?!?!! It makes bud purple, but that makes your plants unhealthy. Trichs are a reaction to light, not cold…

            Auto flowers and certain photo strains slightly colder temps at the end of flower will make the buds denser and thus heavier, not higher thc though…

            And what strain tested 35% in the states? Who did the test? Got a link?

          • Rangi Faulder

            GSC, sour bubble, white fire, platinum OG. They can all be made to produce over 35.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Pot has not gotten any stronger since I started smoking in 1992. I suspect it hasn’t gotten any stronger since the eighties. Lab tests were not available then so impossible to prove. If you were smoking the best Cali buds in the nineties or the best NYC buds or New England buds , it hasn’t gotten stronger unless you are comparing commercial to indoor which would not make much sense. Indoor grown pot has become more available but in general has not been improved upon. Most breeders are not following the tedious breeding processes that are necessary to improve a strain, mostly they are making hybrids of hybrids which does not usually make for stronger cannabiss.

          • B-dubz

            Actually properly done hybrids of hybrids can make stronger or weaker pot. It really depends on how the genetics combine. Pot has certainly gotten stronger, but not nearly as much as people say it has.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Exactly my point Dubz, recombining genetics is not the same as carefull breeding and selection to make improvements.

          • B-dubz

            But without hybridaztion that takes decades to up a strains thc content. It takes both to breed pot. Hybridization is responsible for much larger net gains in thc content than breeding. Breeding is used to fine tune the strain, up the thc percentages/flavour a LITTLE, but mostly its used to homogenize the strain to one or a few phenotypes. Go take a genetics class or a plant science one. You get allot more variation when new genetic material is introduced than by selective breeding. This variation can bump up thc content in a much shorter time.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            You have no clue about breeding b-dubz.

          • B-dubz

            No that would be you, again.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            It will only be as strong as one of the parents genetic capability, unless you select repetitively for thc or get very lucky with a mutation.

    • Luke Williams

      Maybe it’s mutation

      • B-dubz

        All high thc levels are technically a form of mutation. Its a mutation caused by selective breeding. Cannabis would need a reason for higher THC levels to be favorable for it to happen. A brighter sun would do this because trichs are a defense to light, or possibly if a pest didn’t like trichs that would work too, although I have never heard of this.

    • Rangi Faulder

      What was the flaw? That crops seized at any particular time prior to being harvested ( not the ideal harvest window) was compared to those in peoples deal bags? Or something else?

  • Maria Adan Santa Maria

    i like this news,thanks

  • Brown Sugar

    I am old fashion I guess. I just want the same kind of marijuana that was back in the early 80′s. I don’t know about all this new stuff.

    • alan

      As a smoker since the mid 1970s, I can tell you today’s weed is so much better. Learn my son, learn.

  • Jimijames

    If that graph/chart is from their study, and the doctors conducting don’t understand how THC-A is different than THC, they really need to get into a different field. THCA and THC are completely different in their effects on the body and mind and THCA has been shown to be non psychoactive. Secondly, I see no mention of what methods they use in order to come up with these numbers. I mention this because when you grind or process cannabis, you often end up with more trichomes left in the ground up product and leaving a lot of the green mater behind. On The CNN documentary that aired recently it showed scientists from the Marijuana Potency project testing in such a way that, in my experienced opinion, would extract more of the trichomes and less of the plant matter resulting in an overall skewed ratio by weight. These tests need to be fully disclosed or standardized before you can truly trust any claim of potency. Good keif is 40% by weight. If the plant had that much THC, it wouldn’t be able to support itself structurally.

    • Blue

      THCA is THC in acid form, it is THC with a carbon dioxide molecule attached (and one hydrogen photon). When heat is applied, THCA heats up and starts vibrating, snapping off the carbon dioxide molecule and becoming THC.
      This is what happens when you burn a joint or vaporize some cannabis, most of the THC is stored in fresh or dried cannabis as THCA, and when you apply the heat it decarboxylates to THC becoming “active” and able to fit the CB1 receptor inducing euphoria among other therapeutic effects. THCA does not bond to the CB1 receptor and does not induce euphoria.

      • Aids

        Exactly correct! Decarbing should be done when making edibles. Converts THCA > THC

        • Imhighlikegiraffeass89

          So a man goes to Mexico and one of the first things he sees is a man selling donkeys so he goes up to the man and asks how much for one of those donkeys and the man said that there is what we call an ass so he says I’ll take one. The man then said sometimes this ass will get tired and stop moving but if you scratch his belly he’ll start again so he’s goin down the road scratching his ass when he sees a man selling what looked like chickens so he stops and asks how much for one of those chickens and the man says that’s not chickens those are what we call a cock so he tells the man I’ll take one and continues down the raid scratching his ass with his cock in his hand when he sees a woman selling what looked like goldfish so he asks the woman how much for one of those goldfish and she says that’s not a goldfish where we’re from that’s called a pullit so he says I’ll take a pullit so after he continues riding down the road but can’t scratch his ass because his hands are full so he gets off his ass and as he is doing so a nun is walking by and asks the man if he needed any help today so he replies yes actually can you hold my cock and pullit while I scratch my ass to get him moving again lol

          • joy

            your story had a happy ending!

          • joy

            I’m now reading this as a bedtime story to my kids

          • joy

            I want to live again!! YES!!! Give me the chicken. Give it to me. Don’t worry. Stop looking. It’s not weird.

          • joy

            ok. Finally the implosion has settled. But that is the best joke, at least ones for donkeys chickens and goldfish. Or Mexicans.

    • Rangi Faulder

      Read the study please. It outlines how the performed the tests, the equipment used, technique whereby they used solvents to extract from raw material and goes as far to provide conversion equation of THCA to THC. They are aware of the differences. It is relative to the original sample weight. They ground it up, i.e. homogenised dry sample, then took 200mg of that material to perform an extraction on. There could be a problem with the 200mg sample not being a representative sample of the original flower or perhaps the bad was stuffed with flower not representative of the plant flowers.

      • B-dubz

        Hmmmmm doubtful. That would mean a specific bud from the same plant had a 10 or 20% higher amount of THC than the rest if the plant. That’s pretty unlikely. I mean you can blast a plant with light to up the trichs, but there’s a limit of about 5 or so depending on genes.

        The main thing I would question is if someone grew a 40% THC plant, and flooded the market with it in au to the point its widely available on street level, why would they not sell seeds? They could.make a hellofallot more money seeing as every grower on the planet would want some…

        Well that and her obvious bias

        • Rangi Faulder

          I was thinking more along the lines of say trichomes falling off into a corner and then being stuck to it. For those reasons I think a larger sample amount would be preffered. I don’t think there is intensional bias but there may be a flaw. If you look at the ranges the 40 percent was the extreme of all the numerous samples. I wouldn’t say this flooded a market. The reason I believe it could be true is I recently saw some pics ( not from oz) of something so covered in trichomes at first i thought it must be photo shopped. Then I saw a bunch of other strains ( typically testing at say 22-25) that were similar. So taking the upper end of THC strains around and being pushed into overdrive by a grower and that’s overseas. There was a time when people thought the plant couldn’t push out more than 15 percent. Genetics are spread all over the place. I don’t think there is anything super special about some genetic in oz. Either way, we will never know, because the source identify of each number was not taken, let alone matched to any gene profiling but give it a couple of years and I think you will find it gets common enough to see over 35ish.

          • B-dubz

            That would mean they used the same grinder for all samples without cleaning it, thus making this possibly the most incompetent lab on the planet. I’m sure they understand the concept cross contamination of samples, so if they did do this it most certainly be with the intention of contaminating the samples.

            There probably is a intentional bias. They did this as a study to use against legalization because they think weed is to strong. This argument has been around for a while. Its a comical one. But when you do a study with a specific outcome in mind, its easy to influence the study to make it find what you want.

            If you can buy it on the street as someone who has never bought weed before, then yea its pretty flooded. It may be very expensive, so thus a different segment of the pot market (really high end) but thats still a market. Its the high end market. I used to sell damn good weed from Cali for 280 a ounce. There was other stuff I would get I would sell for four. I doubt the thc level was much higher, and it did taste better/have more trichs, but the people with the money for it only wanted that. My point is there are different submarkets inside the pot market. The street is the lowest level. You could not buy this expensive weed on the street here. If its on street level, the market must be flooded to a extent. Someone has to be making allot of it for it to get that far down.

            How do you know they where not all photo shopped? And do your eyes have someway of testing thc levels?

            The strain with the most crystals I know of is ice, I have only ever smoked it twice, and it looks crazy if its the right pheno. It looks like its covered in ice! But it only tests at 18 to 21%. Your eyes are not a good test. thc content is locked by genetics. You can maximize or minimize the THC through good or bad growing practices, but for almost all strains this is only by a few points. Blue god on the other hand looks fairly normal, sure its frosty, but nothing compared to ice at the eye level. It is around 30% thc generally speaking. The only test your body has that’s worth a salt is consumption, and its till very poor. Its not indicative because terps effect how high you get too. That’s why so many old timers think old strains are stronger, there not, but some were higher in terps.

            You also have to remember there are a slew of cannabidoids that are in trichs, not just thc. So looking is really quite a awful way to estimate percentages.

            Ummmm how long ago was it people didn’t think it would over 15?!?! The 80s at least i am sure…

            The reason they passed 15 percent is breeding. You also have to remember you can breed a strain up without crossing it through selective breeding, it just takes WAY longer then crossing till you find a higher content. So making the older strains higher thc isn’t impossible, but it takes growing out hundreds of generations and basically guessing which ones have higher thc, then only reproducing them.

            It will take longer than a few years odds are (unless legalization happens somewhere with good colleges, then maybe) it took ten or fifteen years to crack twenty and another ten to hit thirty. The odds of anyone being at fouty right now without everyone knowing about it is pretty laughable…

            If you don’t think there is anything special about the genes there then there is no way anyone could have hit fourty. As I said a good grower only can effect thc content by a few points without years of breeding. There is a limit to what more light and good growing can do.

            Hell 30% strains only came out a year or so ago, well after this article was released. When this article was released no one had cracked thirty. Well really they hadn’t released it yet. If someone hit fourty two years ago when this came out the seeds would be on the market and they would be a millionaire.

    • B-dubz

      Haha a indeterminate pot plant?!?! That would be awesome, I would just stake it out like my tomatoes!

    • Stephanas Razsa

      Structurally? I don’t know about that , however I wouldn’t be surprised if they screwed up the test like you said.

  • Mark Jones

    didn’t read. it’s bull shit.

  • trendynay

    oh bullshit article. if 40% existed people would be screaming in the streets about it, it would be all over the internet and seeds would be selling like crazy. LIES AND BULLSHIT. Please bring facts next time. Realize this study came from a REHAB CENTER for WEED!!!

  • CaliBud

    I’ll give Australia some props on their thc levels in their strains but if you seriously believe for a single second that Australia even comes close to Cali bud, you probably have an extra chromosome..

    • Stephanas Razsa

      Cali had some killer bud back in the day but it’s mostly more commercialized growers now that think they know everything.

    • disqus_daK05Q2zCX

      Right because only America can produce anything decent *sarcasm*. Merica fuck yeah!

      • tonydfixer

        WOW, What did Merica do to yeah ?
        Whatever it was, Yeah can’t let it go eh?

    • B-dubz

      Cali still has killer bud, better than back then. And before legalization most of it came from BC…

      • Stephanas Razsa

        Cali has been exporting long before legalization. What are you talkin bout?

        • B-dubz

          Most of the weed in California used to come from British comlubia. Then medical came along and it simply started being diverted from there. Again try doing a iota of research before you speak.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Your wrong, humboldt and Mendocino were exporting across the us long before bc bud. I think your moms calling dub.

          • tonymengela

            I know you are 100% correct,,,, and one little know fact is that Florida has been exporting hydro for years and has had some of the best growers… Those in the networks know

      • Stephanas Razsa

        You didn’t smoke Cali buds in the 90′s. You were sucking your mums teets.

      • Stephanas Razsa

        Very little bud comes from bc these days and it was only a big exporter for a few years because bc bud always sucked.

  • john

    I belive the strain is greek gods an have experienced 35 to 40 percent thc level shit leaves you on your arse for bout 6 hour after one cone another is kona grown with heavy chemicals can really fuck you up an leave you in a coma like state far as the calli weed goes only ever heard bout it in movies experienced smoker out pick something milder way more benifical

    • J3t

      full of shit cunt. Stop spreading lies. you obviously just started smoking and either have been taken for a fool and it worked (for your dealer that is) or you really did get knocked out with 1 cone, in which case your tolerance is quite low and has nothing to do with how powerful the weed is. I’ve been smoking for 15 years and have NEVER come across ANYTHING close to 40%, BECAUSE IT DOESN’T EXIST, as a matter of a FACT Aussie weed is just that!, WEED!, shit weed. Every grower/dealer I’ve mentioned curing to has no fucking clue about it (these are guys that have been growing for 20-30+ years and consider themselves “the best” as all shitty pot growers tend to. I’m growing my own simply because the weed is so damn shit here in Aus and I know for a fact that with a tiny bit of care I can grow 10 times better then these old dickheads that are stuck in the 50′s way of growing (which was around 2-5% THC. 10 years ago was when Aus had good stuff going around. Now only like 1 in every 4 are decent but not worth my 350

      • Bongstar420

        The climate is your problem. Invest in indoor ops and actually know what your doing. Quality is available anywhere, anytime

        • Stephanas Razsa

          I live in maine USA . Everyone around here as great quality medical now, but 20 years ago there was more potent strains around here with much higher terpene levels too. Anyway there used to be a skunk strain around here that probably approached the high 30′s.

          • Bongstar420

            Its probably not possible to get more than 30% free form THC. You are probably talking THC-A, the form most Cannabis produces. And, no, plants like that won’t ever be common and never were.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            I assumed you would know I was referencing total thc(including thc-a). I didn’t say they were common. Obviously they were not and are not.

          • B-dubz

            I’m sure its possible, but highly unlikely, and where still a LONG way off. Blue god is 30% thca idk the level of thc. I don’t think people break it down in lab tests for consumption (although they should) its usually just thc and cbd…

          • Rangi Faulder

            THCA decarboxylates into THC when heated. HPLC (non heated carrier liquid) will identify THCA quantity and a lower THC quantity. Gas chromatography involves heating the column (well over 100C) for aiding speed of stationary phase so does not by its design measure THCA or CBDA. All THCA and CBDA is converted under gas chromatography. Thats why many labs will provide THC and CBD levels only because they run GC equip. Those with HPLC can provide THCA,THC CBDA and CBD. This is why this study that used HPLC added THCA and THC measured together for total.

          • B-dubz

            Some thca will degrade directly cbd from my understanding. When you break a molecule apart not everything degrades to the same substance. Thus gc would be more accurate at analyzing what you actually get when you smoke it.

            Furthermore if someone where selling weed at the street level that was 40% thc (which is where they bought the stuff) that would mean the high end market was flooded with it. Allot would have to be out there for this to happen. If someone where selling a strain that had such high levels, don’t you think they would just say fuck it, stop selling illegal, and sell beans? Its much easier, more legal, and they could make millions over night. Not to mention get famous in the pot world…

          • Rangi Faulder

            Both GC and HPLC are considered very accurate at detecting what they do. Pros and cons lay elsewhere.

          • B-dubz

            That’s my point. Thca does not get you stoned. Not all of it will go to thc when heated, some will always flash off into CBN.

          • B-dubz

            Weed has gotten stronger not weaker. I smoked buds in Maine and from Maine. It’s the same as NYC, philly or Boston, just cheaper.

            Terpene levels have something to do with how high you get. Terpene levels do seam to go down with high thc levels. This is just a guess, but I can get weed that’s weak bit tastes like straight blueberry’s, or I can get really strong weed (like blue god or blue dream) that gets me way more stoned but has much less flavour.

            Its likely your just more sensitive to terp content.

      • Boris Johnson

        1 cone doesn’t really mean anything when you don’t know what it consisted of. I’m a seasoned smoker and 1 whole cone (I’m assuming you mean pure weed joint?) of what I get will knock me out. I have no idea what percentage of THC it has and no way to find that out.

        Weed smoking is becoming a pissing contest where people boast about how much they can handle/grow and everyone somehow thinks they’re a guru. So, let us into your secrets? I bet I can piss higher.

  • Ozbud

    Hi just want to say there seems to be sour grapes about who is growing the strongest pot from people on this forum. Data presented here in summary, is from a scientifically published and peer reviewed study in a scientific journal. If you think its wrong dont you think its better come up with the facts?

    Honestly, I have been a user of cannabis for decades smoking in Australia as well as purchasing, growing and smoking the hyped cup winners from overseas (at which I have been commonly disappointed).

    Just because something is hyped, marketed on forums and known about does not make a strain the best in the world. No disrespect to anyone but there is some very potent pot in Australia. Also, many suitable and ideal growing environments with alot of old genetics and history that are the backbone of cannabis that is bred today. Thumbs up for an interesting study!

    • B-dubz

      Old genetics would mean low THC…

      And if someone really made a strain that strong it would be big news. They could make millions off seeds. Hell when a guy in Canada cracked 30% ppl went apeshit (blue god) so yes, its extremely doubtful.

      • Stephanas Razsa

        Old genetics does not mean low thc. Your probably under 30 Bdu-b, therefore don’t really have a concept how things have progressed. It’s easier to get decent indoor now, but those in the know have been smoking killer indoor for 20-30 years.

        • B-dubz

          Yes it does mean lower thc content.

          No it has not increased as much as government or pundits claim, but you where not smoking 25 or 30 percent thc strains. There is a genetic limit of a strain. It takes years if not decades to bump that level up without hybridization.

          The strains back then did have higher levels of terps, and that certainly effects your high as well. In lamens terms it had better flavour.

          Yes I am young, but I know people that have been growing since the 70s and i have smoked there weed. One of them has a strain that tastes like blueberrys, and its not DJ shorts because he has been growing it and breeding it since the seventys. I know another guy that Has been growing a lemon Thai since the early 80s. Yes there weed is great, but I highly doubt its over 15 percent. I have made hash with it, and smoked allot of different strains, it simply does not get you as stoned as critical or blue dream, although it does taste better.

          I never said it was not killer, I simply said it was not twenty or thirty percent. That’s a fact. Hell in 2000 when I started smoking there where no 30% strains in existence.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Your just wrong, the weed in the 90′s was just as strong if not stronger than what’s around now. Making hybrids does not increase thc, genetics just doesn’t work that way. Most peoples weed had not been lab tested yet in the year 2000.

          • B-dubz

            You get a bunch of links about dosing edibles…. Got a link? Thought not…

            If a bud where twenty percent thc, that would mean you could get twenty percent back when making co2 hash oil, when in fact a ounce of really good weed makes more like a gram of hash…

            For the love of god use your brain dude!

            Also if you look up what does thc percentage mean you will get my answer, not yours…

          • B-dubz

            Patently false. The old strains capped out at 20%. High times and places in amersterdam have been measuring levels since the 80s. The switch in testing methods occured in the 80s. The fact you think weed got weaker shows me you have no clue. Why did it get weaker? Growing methods in both soil and hydro have drastically increased since then.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Yes it’s a controversial opinion, but I was there. I went to Amsterdam in 96, there was okay weed there but the breeders there for the most part sucked. They mix the weed with tobacco when they smoke. In 96 there was better weed in New England, Cali , and New York than anything from Amsterdam. America invented indoor cannabis cultivation in the northwest. There is a lot of breeders who don’t do any real breeding anymore. Pollen chucking is not breeding. It’s okay to do but it’s not breeding, once the seed money got big time greedy “breeders” fucked up all the lineages, and because of the illegal nature of cannabiss most of the old varieties were lost.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            I didn’t say weed got weaker dub, I said weed in the 90′s was just as stong. In general weed had more unique flavors back then. Weed has been over hybridized and is more bland and not as unique. It happens in most agricultural plants that are grown. There are less differences in varieties and many times chosen for yield, and other commercial factors. An example of weed not getting better might be sour diesel. The original cut was generally better and always more potent than any of the progeny. Time and random breeding does not ensure progress.

          • B-dubz

            Bullshit. Sour diesel has certainly gotten better than it was in the early 2000. Try the ibl.

            Again weed has gotten stronger, not more flavourful. Most would argue with strength flavour dissapears because flavour is not what’s being bred for.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Nope, the original cut is still the best . You don’t know shit.

          • B-dubz

            No the fuck its not. You have no idea what your talking about. The original cut was WEAKER and did not taste as good as what’s out today. That’s why sour diesel has gotten better over the years, not worse.

            Go buy a clue dumbass.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            You’ve never had the original sour from cut. It’s from this hood, and most of the seeds on the major labels came from up the road.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            I still have several strains from the 90′s that test over 20%, and they are just average strains from the 90′s not the most potent ones. Durban , bublegum , blue moon shine all test over 20 and these are just random samplings

          • B-dubz

            Durban poison hits twenty percent on the nose NOW. It was probably closer to 15 or 18 back then due to an extra fifteen years of breeding it has risen a little. Furthermore I never said 20% didn’t exist back then, I said 25 and certainly 30 didn’t.

            You seem to be full of anactdotal evidence dude…

          • Stephanas Razsa

            No one has been improving on Durban poison, it’s always been bomb. Most parts of the country either just got access to labs or still don’t . For instance NYC has always had some of the best herb but they still don’t have any lab access there.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            I have had the same Durban since 95, you think it magically improved?

  • PatrickMonkRn

    Would like to see a no holds barred prize fight between Mullaways and Phoenix Rising. What a bunch of bullshit hype. We have the same kind of charlatan snake-oil salesmen here in the US.

    • Rangi Faulder

      Mullaways did not claim to use CBD strains.

  • Paulpot

    Cannabis has to be heated to turn the NON-psychoactive THCA into psychoactive THC. THCA and THC have different medicinal properties.
    Further there is nothing harmful about any of these compounds but understanding and honesty would help a lot when prescribing it as a medication for people who really need help.

    • Bongstar420

      Sure. People who believe they “might’ be harmed by an overdose will waste good hospital time seeking “relief” that would happen without any medical attention what so ever in 99% of cases.

      Unless they took other drugs like Oxycotin or Alcohol. The Cannabis could cause them to over dose rather easily on those drugs.

      • B-dubz

        What? Nooooo.

        The alcohol or oxy would cause the od. Cannabis would not effect it either way. Cannabis does not interact with those drugs, and does not increase the chance of od.

  • dave

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  • Ukrules

    WTF the highest EVER reading of THC is 25.6% none of this 40% Bol££0x this whole study is tosh

    • Austin

      your actually wrong, new 2014 strains like bruce banner #4 have shown levels in the 28% just thought i would let you know

      • Bongstar420

        That is a reasonable claim while the claim in the article is not

    • Stephanas Razsa

      You never know, I think it’s possible, that strains that portent could have existed and still do, however many ways to screw up a test.

  • PatrickMonkRn


  • G

    CBD levels are highest right before plants are ready to harvest. Harvest before it’s ready, create CBD oil and help epilepsy. 15% CBD in dry material is great, but would be greater in what I mentioned above. A drop on a child’s tongue of an average CBD level can make a child go from 12 seizures a day to 1-2 every two weeks, with that mystery percentage I mentioned above I would like to hear that someone harvested early to see if you can rid of those left over seizures. Prey that it rids of them completely.
    Your 17 year old Oregonian buddy:)
    That is just one of thousands of things you could attempt to help with the mystery percentage. Can’t wait to hear, if not, it’ll be my turn shortly.
    Much love and respect to you supporters of gods gift to us.

    • Bongstar420

      Hemp extract is empirically the same. No need to fuss with a fancy flower crop. Acres of hemp producing pounds of CBD for the cost of $300 per acre input. Think about what that means

    • B-dubz

      Noooooo cbd/THC levels are dependant on strain. If anything harvesting early would have more THC not less. THC breaks down into cbd. If you leave a plant up longer till the trichs turn amber you will have more couchlock. Couchlock is indicative of cbd.

      • Rangi Faulder

        THC breaks down to CBD? By what pathway? you just used couchlock effect to suggest it.

        • B-dubz

          Yes thc breaks down into cbd. Cbd is canibidiol, thc is canabidiol with extra molecules. If you heat thc enough it turns to cbd. So when you heat any thc some will immediately flash over, probably closest to the heat.

          Yes couchlock is indicative of higher cbd.

          • Rangi Faulder

            Well and good if you have an analysis of couchlock strain or a couch lock type strain that has CBDA or CBD in it. In the context maybe you are thinking CBN. Next time you buy some infused products that have THC in them because their manufacturing involved heating raw plant oil -THCA up to temp for long enough to decarboxylate into THC, what method are you going to ever use to heat the THC formed to then get the THC to turn into CBD? Poster was mentioning raw plant and levels toward maturity. The plant strains have varying amounts and type of enzyme which acts on a precursor CBG. You could call them CBDA or THCA synthesising enzymes because thats what they make. Ie they build. This level of enzyme produced by plant working on CBG at most basic level determines the final products smoked/heated THC or CBD levels not degradation of THC to CBD. Interestingly you can reasonably identify CBD(A):THC(A) ratios in immature plants.. I bracket them to indicate raw forms..that will close enough correspond to when they are old, except the concentrations ( quantity) will be higher. it would be interesting to see CBG there. There is mostly THCA in raw drug type plant with some conversion to THC going on toward end and during curing. THC to CBN. and CBG present in many hemp strains, low in THC but almost as if CBDA sythesise enzyme has not acted yet on CBG. To my knowledge it has not been resolved by scientists as to why and not widely seen in THC drug types but has shown up rarely. and in reply to nancy below. Sorry. Thats not how it works. There are very few drug type plants with tendency for CBD in Australia just like it was rare to find in say the USA.

          • B-dubz

            Yea your right it degrades into CBN. But that does not change the fact that it degrades, and does so at different rates when heated (as almost anything does) and some thc would be lossed in a heated conversion (like when smoked or prepared for edibles) just like it is in a gc-ms.

            I understand decarbing quite well, I don’t buy infused products because that’s very illegal here, I make them for myself. Hell I eat weed or leaves sometimes to purposefully ingest thca and cbda because it is an amazing anti inflammatory as well as having other benefits.

          • Rangi Faulder

            Right on, it does have great benefits.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Nice to see you admit your wrong dub! Your growing up after all!

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Yea I like cold processed alcohol tinctures that preserve cbda, helps me sleep beautifully

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Your wrong, I think you mean cbn. Cbda when heated turns to cbd.

          • B-dubz

            No. Thc when heated enough degrades to CBd not CBN.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Cbda when heated converts to cbd. Thca heated to thc and cbn…….

      • Stephanas Razsa


        • B-dubz

          Yea you are all over the place. Why are you still spreading myths??

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Everything you say is wrong dub. Thc does not break down to cbd. You just keep making false statement after false statement.

          • Stephanas Razsa

            Thc does not break Down to cbd dub-ass

  • Snowpetz

    The higher the THC content the higher the chance of paranoia and long term psychosis! I don’t see how this is ANYTHING but a concern. CBD levels need to be just as high as as THC if just a little bit lower to have a ‘good high’ without risks

    • Bongstar420

      The paranoia and long term psychosis is phenotypically dependent on the individual consuming the drug. I’ve never had paranoia, and I’ve consumed 50-70%THC resins when I had a low tolerance. It caused closed eye visuals, increased heart rate, and blood pressure but no paranoia or psychosis.

    • B-dubz

      Bullshit I wanna get high!

      Show me a instance of long term pyscosis from cannabis ingestion when use ceased. Hell show me one where long term use caused anything except temporary psychosis (ie the person still suffered the next day)

  • Realty Check

    No Way!
    Those samples were clearly laced with extracted marijuana oil
    that has a very highly concentrated THC content. I can easily get over
    50 percent THC content in oil by the extraction of premium grade bud
    with butane. Get real people. More cheap lore to grab a headline IMO.
    BTW, marijuana oil extract laced bud is very very good.

    I am speaking about the brown to amber colored oil NOT the black gunk from leaf remains.

    • Bongstar420

      You can pull pristine BHO from leaves. Yield is low though. Its also not quite the same as flowers as far as effects go

    • B-dubz

      I wouldn’t smoke bho. You certainly will never pull all the tend out no matter how you purge, remnants will remain. I don’t want to eat food products with butane extracted products in it anyway. Solvent less dabs tastes better, and co2 or nitrogen is stronger. If you wanna make it at home just use ever clear…

      • Rangi Faulder

        Labs have tested BHO at zero residue. A competition was ran for it. Many (20 odd) were proud and confident enough to enter, most failed but not all. There are methods including vacuum purging but it is the uncertainty not the never.

        • B-dubz

          Got a link?

          I have smoked allot of bho. I have made bho. I am familiar with vacuum purging.

          All bho I have ever tasted retains that sweet butane flavour. This to me is a indication that bho cannot ever be completely purged.

          I have also talked to people with master in chemistry, and they told me it never could be completely purged, but that in the amounts would b very negligible. Similar to the amounts in food products. (Yes they use butane to make chems in food)

          I don’t like petrochemicals. They are destroying the planet in many ways, and co2 and nitrogen makes stronger better tasting concentrates anyway. I would prefer to smoke something (when I can again, probations a bitch! 5 n/ml drug tests…) That I know are clean. I don’t live in a med state, and from what you said allot of the stuff in med states does have tane still in it. I have gotten bho from Washington from a good friend that didn’t even pass the flame test! (In a dark closet you hit it with a torch, if it sparks its bad obviously…) He said it was from a club… I believe him, he’s not the type to lie and it was very cheap…

          Co2 is sure to be clean. I must say though the best dabs is certainly solventless. The flavour profile of the bud is retained much better, and its not bad for the environment in any way, co2 although better still is.

          What method are there other than vacuum purging? I mean you can just bake the shit, but that certainly does not work as well as heat plus vacuum.

          Honestly I gave up on smoking concentrates a few years ago. For baking they are awesome, or a special occasion, but they just jack up the tolerance to much. I want bud to get me stoned, and I know way to many people that simply can’t because they smoke to much bho… When I did make concentrates for cooking or for a special occasion I started just using good ole alcohol…

          • Stephanas Razsa

            I am sorry you have drug tests, time will fix it. Producing co2 uses lots of greenhouse gasses.

          • B-dubz

            Yes it does as well as petrochemicals, but its still preferable to smoking butane, and is probably less damaging to the environment. Nitrogen is certainly the best option but can be very hard to get.

      • Stephanas Razsa

        Ever clear doesn’t come out as strong as BHO.

  • Chris Hansen

    This article is BS

  • Shawn Page

    This is so cool, only if the US would legalize pot. #xpresspage #marijuana

  • pothole

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  • john wall

    i have been growing weed in nimbin aus since i moved out of my parents house 46 years ago, over the years i have picked up on how to grow 40%+ thc strains easy when its legal over here youll hear about it.

    • Bongstar420

      I’m sure you didn’t. Reference previous posting

    • B-dubz

      Again so you also have a PhD in Chem and the equipment to test it? Thought not…

  • bob

    40% thc is impossible to get from the flowers. The plant matter itself is probably 60-70%. Then you have the other cannabinoids totaling around 10%.. impossible to get 40% thc from flowers….that is fact. It took years before colorado or California had a proper, accurate testing method. Wouldn’t surprise me that Australia is using one of the wrong methods for testing which result in the high numbers.

    • Rangi Faulder

      They reveal their methods in the study. You could compare these to what is seen as best practise in Colorado or California to check for flaw in methods.

  • Not How it Works

    That is not how it works.. 40% THC does not mean that the bud is made
    up of 40% THC by weight.. it means that when you take all of the
    cannabinoids and add them up, 40% of those cannabinoids are THC..
    not even sure if cannabinoids is the right word.. But I am sure that
    your thinking on 40% being a measurement of the weight of the buds is
    completely wrong.
    40% THC just means that the buds are mostly offering THC, less of the other actives..

    you make extracts you would know this is true.. you are lucky to get
    3.5g of hash from an oz of buds.. and that hash is not even close to
    being pure THC.. that is just hash.

    Your thinking is all
    backwards. This is people who don’t know what they are talking about,
    talking like they do know what they are talking about.. silly.

    • Stephanas Razsa

      The thc% of a sample is the percent of the sample that is thc meaning by weight. In other words if my gram of extract tests at 60% thc, the gram has 600 milligrams, or 60% thc by weight. That is just a fact, get a clue before you repeat more BS.

  • Garrett

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    • B-dubz

      Haha bullshit. I hope your joking…

      So you also have a fancy lab and a PhD in chemistry to test the stuff?

  • snappy aussie

    Sorry they must have screwed up with the testing. Australia doesn’t grow the strongest pot in the world. The weed everyone of my friends smoked in washington state or the netherlands has apparently been much much better. They obviously didn’t test the best weed in Europe or America.

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  • Ece Genetics

    I just want to know the I’ll effects THC has on a human when consumed?

    • B-dubz

      Fyi I’m a stoner, and a pot fellon… So deffinatly not a dick…

      My gf used to smoke, she quit because of panic attacks… Albeit she was smoking Mexican brick weed, but that should have a lower THC to cbd ratio and since cbd is a anti anxiety compound you would think good weed would only make it worse as it has more THC and less cbd.

      So it can have I’ll effects on some people, but the effect subsides with the high and most do not expierence this. I have smoked copious amounts of pot and never expierenced this.

      • Ece Genetics

        Understood, people often do have panic attacks after refraining from smoking, consuming or however one chooses to use their Cannabis for long periods of time.

        However, once the person smokes after refraining from Cannabis for a long period of time this person may infact gat an I’ll effects T from the first use but as this person continues to use the Cannabis the body will become used to the effects of the Cannabis and the panic attacks WILL subside. It’s like anything introduced to the body for the first time.

        Usually, in most cases, the body will become accustomed to that particular substance ( in this case Cannabis and THC) therefore allowing the brain to recognize THC and it’s effects therefore allowing the Cannabis to do its intended job and that it to continue to allow the Endocannabinoid System to function as it was intended or else our bodies wouldn’t contain this complex set of synapses in the certain part of the brain which we still have much to learn about!

        I can talk for days on this matter but I took it as THC as having serious I’ll effects but now I understand!


        • B-dubz

          She never got used to it. Smoked for years. Ounces (of shit) a day sometimes. We used to box out her civic and watch movies on a portable DVD player Haha… She certainly enjoyed it, but the more she did it the worse the attacks got. One day we where all walking up my street (like ten ppl) and all smoking blunts to the face st 2 in the morning. She started thinking she couldint feel her arms or legs and freaked out! That was the end… Albeit she was like 18 at the time, so her (nor any) of our brains where fully developed, and she has pretty bad anxiety sober. But never attacks, the pot certainly brings it out…

          Actually the endocannaboid system is never acting normally when you ingest weed. That’s why you get stoned! You make your own cannaboids in the endocannaboid system. They are called endocannaboids hence the name…

          Yea we still got allot to learn about it, although they have learned a good deal since its discovery.

          Like I said earlier these effects are much or nonexistant than the generally populace, and certainly less dangerous than alcohol still. She can’t fucking stand alcohol either. She’s sober. Actually when she took xanex recreationally she said that’s how she thought she should feel all the time, probably proving her anxiety. It is a anti anxiety after all! (But very dangerous. I know people that died or where paralyzed from overdose/withdrawal of barbiturates)

    • B-dubz

      Hungry happy and sleepy for me… Shit I need it to sleep. My Insomnias a bitch without it (thanks uncle Sam)

      It also slows my thought process down, I tend to think to fast and put my foot in my mouth or not think things out as well as I could…. I think weird though. Its like I have three trains of thought… Not a good thing…

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  • Reality rocks

    With over 70 years of growing experience in Humboldt county, California, I call bullshit on that claim. Once the flowers reach over about 28%, the plant morphs and dies.

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  • billymillennium

    40% THL level? BULLSHIT! Cromatography can only measure up to 30%, anything higher is not accurate. Say you get a reading of 31% is not a consistent readout with THC levels and what this Aussie weed is a cromo reading is the pestisides their incorporating into their grow. Please Australia, don’t compare your marijuana to the world-known Holland or California grows, you’re only making yourself look as bright as a kangaroo…

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    Cannabidiol (CBD), an isomer of THC, is a non-psychoactive cannabinoid with sedative, anti-anxiety, anti-psychotic qualities known to relieve convulsion, fight inflammation, assuage nausea, and may even inhibit the growth of some types of cancer cells.

    Delta-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol Carboxylic Acid(Δ9-THC-A, THCA), an acid with the carboxylic group (COOH) attached. In its acid form, THC is not very active. It is only when the carboxyl group is removed through decarboxylation that THC becomes psychoactive.

    Delta-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol (Δ9-THC, THC) is the primary psychoactive component of the plant. It appears to ease moderate pain (analgesic) and to be neuroprotective. THC has been the most widely studied Cannabinoid, and its precise measurement is an integral part of medical cannabis potency testing.

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  • Darth Vapor

    I got popped when I was 16 (thank god not 18!) for cannabis possession. The police officer tested it and they almost pooped their pants when they told me and my friend it was almost 30% THC and that they never saw any that strong before. It turned almost solid black liquid. This was like 1995 and we got it from some islanders on H Street way down south almost in Wade county. We knew it was strong when my friend and I started laughing when we were smoking it like it was our first time smoking. I have seen a lot of buds since then but that batch was the strongest bud for the price I ever got (“regs” level). Amsterdam bud is no more than 15% THC for high grade cannabis. have legally gotten some higher potency stuff in the US but I dont think I ever found any other cannabis that hit 30% since that time, maybe a few got close but I certainly was not paying Reg prices. For a long time the cost of high grade cannabis per oz. was the same as gold. If only I had access to gold back in those days I would have loved to buy some, now its very expensive.

  • tonymengela

    Just harvest it when 85% of the trichomes have turned amber. That will bring up that cbd big time

  • Bo Treat

    we want to get high, and we want it to last…that is pot smoking, one hit and it lasts for 4 hours before another matters…not this smoke a bowl, smoke a bowl, and smoke another before it starts to feel, then you have to smoke another in 20 minutes because the last didn’t last.